Loyalist Trails UELAC Newsletter, 2009 Archive

In this issue:
- The Man of Two Passions -- © Stephen Davidson
- "Thanksgiving & What it means": A Native Loyalist's View (and FDYP Update)
- Silas Raymond (1748 - 1824) - Fifth Generation in America - © 2009 George McNeillie
- Old Hay Bay Church Annual Pilgrimage Service
- Cornwall's 225th Anniversary
- Historical Driving Tour of South Glengarry Sept 19
- The Hay Bay Guardian 2009 Edition Now Available
- Become a Soldier; Relive Your Loyalist Ancestor's Experience
- Canadian Forces Flies Loyalist Flag
- 2009 Mentorship Programme - Order of Canada
- New Edition of Loyalism in the Hoosick Valley by Bernard C Young Can be Ordered in Canada
- Data on the Existing Cemeteries in the United Counties of Dundas and Stormont affected by the St. Lawrence Power Projects - Lyall & Margaret Manson
- Last Post: Wayne Edward Harland Pyne
- Queries
      + Responses re Names of Those Who Lived at or Were Stationed at Fort Haldimand
      + Addendum: Help Solving a Revolutionary War Document Mystery
      + What is the Missing Ingredient?

The Man of Two Passions -- © Stephen Davidson

February 5, National Weatherman's Day in the United States, is the birth date of a Boston loyalist noted for his interest in meteorology.

The first American to fly was not one of the Wright brothers, but this very same loyalist. He flew in a hydrogen balloon over London, England in November 1784.

This same man made the world's first delivery of an airmail letter in 1785.

Meteorology and ballooning were the twin passions of a forgotten loyalist named Dr. John Jeffries. This is his story.

In 1763, Jeffries graduated from Harvard University at the age of eighteen. Following further training in England and the establishment of his own practice, he married in 1770. Besides seeing to patients in Boston, Jeffries also served as the surgeon for a British warship that was anchored in the city's harbour. The young doctor had a keen interest in meteorology and made it a habit to take regular weather readings. And then the revolution erupted.

Jeffries was one of the doctors who tended to wounded British soldiers following the Battle of Bunker Hill in June of 1775. 32 years old at the time, the doctor recognized that Boston was no place for a loyalist, his wife and children. The Jeffries family fled to Halifax where for a time he was the chief of surgical staff for Nova Scotia. After relocating to England, the Boston doctor became the surgeon for the HMS Raleigh which patrolled the coast of South Carolina and Georgia. He is noted as caring for the wounded after the siege of Charleston.

When Jeffries learned of his wife Sarah's death in 1780, he returned to England to care for his three children. He entered private practice and made a comfortable living by providing obstetric and gynecological services to London's loyalist refugees. Although he testified on behalf of a fellow Boston doctor at the loyalist compensation hearings in 1784, that year would stand out in Jeffries' mind as the year in which he discovered his "ruling passion" -- ballooning.

In September of 1784, Vincent Lunardi flew the first balloon over British soil. William Jarvis, the future first provincial secretary of Upper Canada, was just one loyalist in the crowd that day. Dr. John Jeffries was another. He immediately recognized that ballooning could enhance the understanding of his first passion, the weather. After witnessing the ascent of Jean-Pierre-Francois Blanchard's hydrogen balloon in October of 1784, Jeffries approached the aeronaut and proposed funding the Frenchman's second flight --the condition being that Jeffries would fly with him as a passenger.

In November, Jeffries became the first American to fly as he joined Blanchard in a 6,560-foot ascent over London. Ever the meteorologist, the Boston loyalist brought along air sample bottles, a thermometer, a compass, a timepiece, a telescope, a barometer, an electrometer, and a hydrometer.

Once was not enough for Jeffries. He proposed a second flight with Branchard, this time one which would take the pair across the English Channel from Dover to Calais, France. William Franklin, the illegitimate son of Benjamin Franklin, was a friend of John Jeffries. His son, William Temple Franklin, was in France. When he learned of Jeffries' planned flight across the Channel, he gave him a letter to take to Temple.

Writing his letter in December of 1784, the loyalist Franklin said, ""you will like to be one of the first who gets a Letter across the British Channel by this kind of aerial Conveyance." Eventually this letter was passed on to Benjamin Franklin who would later claim that it was written to him. Today, the world's first airmail letter can be found in the archives of the American Philosophical Society.

Besides Franklin's letter, Jeffries packed food, drink, scientific instruments, a British flag and 34 books into the basket of Blanchard's balloon. They began their 35-mile journey on January 7, 1785. Thomas Rowlandson, a famous artist of the era, was on hand for the launch and made a sketch of Jeffries' departure from Devon Castle.

As Blanchard navigated the balloon, Jeffries made a number of weather experiments. But things went awry. The balloon started to lose altitude, and the men were forced to cast off their ballast, then their instruments (everything but Jeffries' barometer), the books, and their winter clothing. Running out of things to throw overboard, Jeffries thought they might lighten the balloon if he and Blanchard emptied their bladders. The strategy worked, and after a flight of three hours, the somewhat frozen aeronauts landed unharmed in the forest of Guinnes.

The men became instant celebrities in Paris, and when he returned to England, Jeffries presented the data he collected on his flight to the Royal Society. When Narratives, an account of the Channel flight, was published in the spring of 1786, it contained a portrait of Jeffries standing in a balloonist costume of his own design with a barometer nearby -- the perfect image of a man with two passions.

At 42 years of age, John Jeffries married Hannah Hunt, a 22-year-old English woman. Two years later, his family in Boston urged him to return home to claim property left to him in a relative's will. After Jeffries and his young family arrived in Massachusetts in 1790, he decided to stay. The fact that he had been a loyalist during the revolution was either forgotten or forgiven.

The famous balloonist and meteorologist established a medical practice in which he "attended the poor as cheerfully and as faithfully as the rich". In addition to his professional responsibilities, Jeffries continued to take regular weather measurements right up until 1816.

Dr. John Jeffries died in 1819 at the age of 75, leaving descendants on both sides of the Atlantic. Two centuries later, his role in American meteorological science was recognized when his birth date was chosen to mark National Weatherman's Day. The fact that he was a loyalist, though, has been almost completely forgotten.

To secure permission to reprint this article, contact the author at {stephendavids AT gmail DOT com} how do I email him?

"Thanksgiving & What it means": A Native Loyalist's View (and FDYP Update)

"The Earth Mother

We are all thankful to our Mother, the Earth, for she gives us all that we need for life. She supports our feet as we walk about upon her. It gives us joy that she continues to care for us as she has from the beginning of time. To our mother, we send greetings and thanks.

Now our minds are one."

The new lands that would become home to the Loyalists would become revered for their magnificence and abundance. Ever mindful that we are caretakers of a very special natural part of North America, Canadians need only look around to see the importance of respecting and protecting their environment. As our daily lives become less connected with the relatively same climate as our ancestors faced head-on, we may have a tendency to overlook the gravity such an environment had on 18th Century pioneers.

David Kanowakeron Hill Morrison UE

[Editor's Note: Read the full Thanksgiving Address For details, visit Four Directions Youth Project - donations are needed, and appreciated.]

Update of FDYP Fund Raising Campaign

Two significant donations have helped to get this fund raising project for FDYP underway. They total $685., which puts us over 13% of the way to our objective. As much as larger donations have a quick impact, $25 or even smaller donations are most welcome and appreciated.

...Carl Stymiest UE

Silas Raymond (1748 - 1824) - Fifth Generation in America - © 2009 George McNeillie

Silas Raymond, youngest child of Samuel and Mary Raymond, was born in Norwalk, June 26, 1748. At the age of twenty-one he married Dec. 21, 1769, Sarah Barlow, who was born January 18, 1746, and is said to have been a native of Stamford, though I have never been able to trace her ancestry. The table below contains the names of their children with dates of birth, ages, etc.

When the three oldest of the children of Silas Raymond were born, the disputes between the colonies and the mother country had begun to wax warm, and in 1776 they culminated in a civil war and armed rebellion. The Declaration of Independence followed on the 4th day of July, 1776.

In those exciting days few were able to remain neutral even if they wished to do so. Silas Raymond was known to be a Loyalist, and in consequence he endured much persecution at the hands of his "deluded countrymen", and became at length so obnoxious to the "Selectmen" and "Sons of Liberty" in Norwalk that his life was no longer safe.

One day in the autumn of 1776, as Silas was engaged in reaping wheat, along with his hired man, his attention was attracted by an ominous "click". Glancing around he could see nothing. A few moments later the sound was repeated, and glancing quickly in the direction from whence the sound proceeded, he detected a man pointing his musket directly at him. The gun had evidently twice missed fire, and thus, in all probability his life had been preserved. It was clear that his life was sought by his enemies, and, after consultation with his family, he left home in Nov. 1776, and sought protection within the British lines at Eaton's (or Lloyd's) Neck on Long Island, distant from Norwalk some fifteen miles across the Sound. His enemies, not satisfied with his departure, proceeded to seize his property. This we learn from the following paper, recorded in the archives of Connecticut: -

"Order of Forfeiture and Sale of Goods and Effects of one Silas Raymond: - Fairfield adjourned County Court. 2nd Tuesday in December, 1777.

"On information of the Selectmen of the Town of Norwalk in Fairfield County showing to Thaddeus Betts, Esq., Justice of the Peace for the said County, that there is Goods and Effects in said Norwalk belonging to Silas Raymond of said Norwalk, who has put and continued to hold and screen himself under the protection of the Ministerial Army, etc., said Justice issued a writ, dated Feb'y 18, 1777, to seize and to hold sd estate, and to be dealt with according to law.

"The said Raymond was called at this Court; made default of appearance.

"This court having considered the evidence relative to the said Raymond screening himself as aforesaid do order and direct that the Goods and Effects of the said Raymond, according to the officer's return on said writ, be forfeited to the use and benefit of this State, and that they be sold according to law, and that Execn. be granted, &c.

"Execn. granted. Dec. 25, 1777."

This was not a very acceptable Christmas missive for the unfortunate Silas, or his family.

Within the memory of those yet living there were many traditions of the Revolution among the older members of the Raymond families. My grandfather Raymond's youngest sister, Mary-Ann, had many of these which she had received from her oldest sister, Grace (Mrs. John Marvin) who was twelve years old when she came to Kingston. We used to know this youngest of Silas Raymond's children as "Aunt Crawford". She once told her daughter Susan (Mrs. Eli Northrup) that her brother Jesse (the ancestor of the Norton Raymonds) was an infant less than two years old when his father Silas left home, and when they met him again, three years later, the little chap had entirely forgotten his parents. During this period the family spoke of their father as "having gone away to the war". (To be continued)

Excerpt from Book of Family History written by The Ven. William Odber Raymond, LL.D, FRSC. © 2009 George McNeillie - all rights reserved [published here with permission; see footnote]

...George McNeillie {ggm3rd AT sympatico DOT ca} how do I email him?

Old Hay Bay Church Annual Pilgrimage Service

Old Hay Bay Church will hold its 63rd Annual Pilgrimage Service on Sunday, August 23, 2009, at 3 p.m. The Speaker will be the Rev. Philip Hobbs, Personnel Minister for Bay of Quinte Conference. Phil has a rich Methodist heritage having been raised in the Pilgrim Holiness Church. In his present position, he is responsible for the pastoral care of ministers, candidates, and their families---a shepherd of shepherds---and has won great respect for his work.

The church, built in 1792 by Loyalists, is the oldest extant Methodist building in Canada, and a designated National Historic Site. Located south of Napanee ON, it is only a few km north of the Loyalist Parkway (Hwy 33). Follow the Historic Site signs.

...Bill Lamb {william DOT lamb AT rogers DOT com} how do I email him?

Cornwall's 225th Anniversary

In June 1784, Lieutentant-Colonel Sir John Johnson, led the 1st Battalion King's Royal Regiment of New York and elements of the Royal Highland Emigrants, 84th to Royal Township No. 2 (present day Cornwall, ON). Camp was sited on the plateau overlooking the St. Lawrence River, and by October the settlement had 215 men, 87 women and 214 children. As home to the King's Stores, the settlement grew into the local administrative centre and attracted immigrants, first from the British Isles and the new Republic to the South and eventually from around the world.

To mark this community and nation building event the Stormont, Dundas and Glengarry Historical Society raised $10,000 from across Canada to build a memorial cairn near the spot of the original landing. The City of Cornwall will mark this historic event on Sunday, September 13 at 2 p.m., with a special plaque and cairn unveiling ceremony. You are invited to attend. Location: Lamoureux Park, Cornwall, adjacent to the United Counties Museum in the Wood House (Cornwall Community Museum). Information: Ian10@bellnet.ca; 613 936-0842.

...Ian Bowering {Ian10 AT bellnet DOT ca} how do I email him?

Historical Driving Tour of South Glengarry Sept 19

The Sir John Johnson Manor House Committee, located in Williamstown, Ontario, is organizing an Historical Driving Tour of South Glengarry on Saturday, September 19, 2009 from 10AM to 4PM. This event is a fundraising project for the Manor House Committee which promotes and preserves the Sir John Johnson Manor House site. Click here for more information on the Manor House.

The Driving Tour will begin at 10AM at the Raisin River Heritage Centre in the Village of St. Andrew's West on Highway 138 north of Cornwall and will include 11 sites of historic significance including five in the Village of Williamstown. The cost is $20 per person and includes a box lunch and an illustrated brochure.

Contact the Sir John Johnson Manor House at 613-347-2356, or sirjohnjohnson@sympatico.ca for details.

...Michael Seguin and Lynne Cook

The Hay Bay Guardian 2009 Edition Now Available

Just out! The 2009 edition of THE HAY BAY GUARDIAN features the story of Jack Roblin U.E. of Adolphustown. Brian Tackaberry records the history of the Bay Quinte Branch UELAC (of which Jack Roblin is a charter member). Lois Davis Ohara tells of the Allison family reunion. Other articles include D.N.A. & Genealogy; an 1830 voyage to Mackinaw by Ojibwa missionaries; 1829-40 memoirs of Rev. George Ferguson; 3 cultural resources of Old Hay Bay Church (including a table older than the church!); book notes, websites, and more.

Only $10 (includes postage) for 28 pages. Place your order at william.lamb@rogers.com .

...Bill Lamb {william DOT lamb AT rogers DOT com} how do I email him?

Become a Soldier; Relive Your Loyalist Ancestor's Experience

...This is what I discovered about putting on a historically accurate, 18th-century British officer's uniform and standing on the Plains of Abraham in Quebec City pretending I was General James Wolfe: I might have looked like an overgrown lunatic playing dress-up, but when I actually slipped the coat and hat on, it felt surprisingly grave. It made me want to be serious.

Anyone interested in such an experience more related to their loyalist ancestor is invited to contact me at {alawrenc AT durham DOT net} how do I email him?. I will be more than happy to arrange an opportunity for you to become part of the recreated King's Royal Regiment of New York and experience at least a bit of what our ancestors went through a few times each summer. We will help you get properly outfitted and armed and train you be an 18th century provincial soldier (or, if of the feminine persuasion or of more peaceful nature, a loyal refugee) participating in re-enactments.

The KRRNY operates mainly out of the southern Ontario area and has members ranging from Detroit to Montreal with concentrations in the London area, Toronto, along the St. Lawrence and Ottawa areas. Other units operate in different parts of the country and I can help you get in touch with them as well. We have members ranging from a very young (as young as 6 weeks of age living in camp) to much older (I'm well into my 60's and still fighting). You don't have to be a Yorker descendant to belong...while details for various units differ the basic experience is much the same.

Visiting royalyorkers.ca will give you a bigger picture. I'm the one holding the King's Colour in the photo on the home page.

...Alex Lawrence UE {alawrenc AT durham DOT net} how do I email him?

Canadian Forces Flies Loyalist Flag

Check out the Loyalist flag in the latest edition (12 Aug 09) of the Canadian Forces Maple Leaf periodical at the bottom of page 10 of the Navy section - click here.

...Michael Eamer, St. Lawrence Branch

2009 Mentorship Programme - Order of Canada

This week I received a number of information cards from Rideau Hall regarding the Order of Canada mentorship programme which pairs 25 members of the Order of Canada with 25 extraordinary Canadian youth. This one-year online programme provides an opportunity for members of the Order to mentor young Canadians in their fields of interest.

Are you a young Canadian with a deep commitmen6t to your community? Then the Governor General's 2009 Mentorship Programme is for you! It will pair 25 young Canadians between the ages of 18 and 25 with 25 members of the Order of Canada from all sectors of society. Each participant will gain valuable insight and exchange ideas through this online mentorship experience. The exchanges will be remarkable, and the friendships are sure to last a lifetime.

If you know any young persons who might be interested, please direct them to www.mentor2009.gg.ca for more information. Applications are due by September 17, 2009.

...Frederick H. Hayward UE, President, UELAC

New Edition of Loyalism in the Hoosick Valley by Bernard C Young Can be Ordered in Canada

The first print run of the book has sold out and much of the interest came from Canada. The second edition has now been printed and is available directly in Canada

The second edition is slightly different:

- The book is registered with the Library of Canada (ISBN 978-0-9734926-0-6).

- The print font a bit larger

- All of the militia listings have been rearranged to the back

- Indexing has been somewhat improved

- Maps have been reproduced in colour which makes them a little clearer

- 74 pages, 8.5 by 11 inch, wire loop bound

- Cost including shipping $15.00

See a book review. New ordering and payment instructions if you are in Canada. From outside Canada, please contact Jim.

...Jim Keller {jim AT jgkeller DOT ca} how do I email him?

Data on the Existing Cemeteries in the United Counties of Dundas and Stormont affected by the St. Lawrence Power Projects - Lyall & Margaret Manson

(Original compiled by James A. Smart, O.B.E. for The Hydro-Electric Power Commission of Ontario April 1956, corrections and additions by Lyall and Margaret Manson)

Book & CD-ROM contain:

- a retyped copy of the Smart text with additions & corrections to the data as described in the Preface

- cemetery maps

- an alphabetic index to the above text.

In addition the CD-ROM contains a copy of the original 1956 text by Smart. All files are in PDF format.

Ordering Information.

Published by and available from: St. Lawrence Branch, UELAC

Price: Book: $30.00 CDN per copy plus S/H:

- Any location in Ontario: $9.00 CDN.

- Other locations in Canada and the USA: $12.00 CDN.

Price CD-ROM: $25.00 CDN per CD plus $2.00 S/H

Cheque or money order made payable to St. Lawrence Branch UELAC

P.O. Box 607, 3 Augusta St., Morrisburg, Ontario Canada K0C 1X0

Branch web-site: www.ripnet.com/sites/uelstlawrencebr/

For more information - E-mail: {ekipp AT rogers DOT com} how do I email him?

Last Post: Wayne Edward Harland Pyne

Wayne Pyne June 7th, 1942 July 30th, 2009, of Saskatoon, formerly of Norquay, SK, passed away peacefully at St. Paul's Hospital after a lengthy courageous battle with many health problems. The eldest son of Harland and Marie Pyne, he was raised in Flin Flon and Nipawin. In spite of major health problems most of his life, he had many accomplishments: journeyman carpenter, business man running many businesses, teacher of industrial arts, founding director representing Saskatchewan for Epilepsy Canada On May 31st, 2009 he became a 4th Degree Knight of Columbus. Perhaps his largest accomplishment was researching his United Empire Loyalist background and writing and publishing the 400 page book "Bridging Loyalist Stephen Pine's/Pyne's Family Trail 1783-2003". Wayne was a member of the Regina Branch.

He is survived by his wife of nearly 39 years, Lois (Massey) and a large extended family. In Wayne's memory, memorial donations may be made to a charity of ones choice. Published in the Saskatoon StarPhoenix on 8/1/2009.

...Lorna Makenzie, Regina Branch

Responses re Names of Those Who Lived at or Were Stationed at Fort Haldimand

Although I have more interests, I am seeking records for Daniel Lobdell UE b. 1765: he and 2 brothers were taken prisoner in Tryon County NY as follows...

- Lobdell, Daniel - Taken on April 3, 1780.

- Lobdell, Isaac - Taken on April 1, 1780 and released on May 21, 1783.

- Lobdell, Joseph - Taken on April 1, 1783, and released on May 21, 1783.

The two brothers, Isaac and Joseph, who returned to America, said that while confined, they were held in Fort Haldimand, and served as butlers to high ranking British officers, and were thus able to enjoy the best food and drink. They even filed for Patriot pensions later, mainly on the basis of their confinement. After 1780, Daniel served as a scout with the KRRNY in forays back into NY, hence remained in Canada, and lived out his days on Frontenac Island, where he is found in the 1851 CDN Census as an 87 year old widower, living with one of his married daughters. He is mentioned briefly in Reid.

I am also looking for records on behalf of a descendant of Rev. John Bethune (1752-1815) and his wife Veronique Wadden (1764-1846). John was chaplain at Fort Haldimand for a time, and their son Angus Bethune was born there on 09 Sep 1783.

...Richard Ripley UE {nffgfamily AT hotmail DOT com} how do I email him?

Daniel served in the 1st battalion, King's Royal Regiment of New York. He enlisted on April 17, 1780 and was in Capt Richard Duncan's Company in 1781 and 82. The muster rolls indicated that he was born ~1741. He was noted as having been captured on April 3, 1780 as a private in the 2nd Tryon County Militia from Palatine District.

James, son of Daniel, was taken on the same date at Remensnyder's Bush and would also have been in 2TCM, although that wasn't noted in the military records. He enlisted the same day as his father and served first in Capt Alex McDonell's Company in 1781 and then in Duncan's Coy in 82.

I have nothing on Isaac or Joseph, so they didn't enlist. Perhaps this is why they claimed to act as servants to officers.

I have no note of Daniel's settlement, so if you could send information on his settlement at Frontenac Island, pls do so.

I don't have anything on Bethune's progeny. Sorry.

...Gavin Watt, H-VP, UELAC

Gavin's information shows that Daniel Lobdell Sr. (b. 1741) served for a time in Loyalist service. Daniel Sr. returned to New York and renounced & possibly concealed his earlier Loyalist leanings. He had a family to support, and in 1791, appeared on a document which attested his Patriot Loyalty (from Montgomery County Archives - this would extend the discussion beyond Fort Haldimand).

We the subscribers late Commissioners of forfeitures of the Western District do hereby certify that on or About the n?th day of June last the Annexed Certificates of the known and undoubted Attachment to the American Cause of William Wormwood, Benony Ford, Nathaniel Curtis, William Johnson, Daniel Lobdill, Samuel Low, Cornelius Lamberson and John Favel were Exhibited to us.

Albany 17th August 1791. Jer VRensselaer; Henk Oothoudt

by 1793, possibly due to tainting of his name by talk of his Tory (Loyalist) affiliation, Daniel was in distressed circumstances, and appealed for help, based on his earlier enlistment with a Patriot Corps, the 2nd Tryon County Militia

from Montgomery County NY archives...

"[Montgomery County, N.Y.] ('ash' indicates burn marks on the records)

[This may certifie that Daniel Lobdell of Palentine] Town in the County [aforesaid did] belong to Capt John Cui[zer's Company of] Molitia in my Ridgment [in the year of] our Lord one thousand Seven Hun[dred and Eig]hty and was So fare in actual [service] as to be held Ready for Service [at a m]inutes warning and being at home [at his] own house in the Royal Grant on [the] Third Day of April in the year afore[said] was Taken Prisoner by a party of [Ind]ians him Self and three Sons one of [abou]ght Sixteen years of age. The other [two] Younger and Carried prisoners to [Can]aday and theire Cept three years and [a ha]lf Stript of His property Sutch as [they] Could Carrey away and Left his [wi]fe with the Remainding part of his [chi]ldren in Distresed Surcomstances --

[ash]uary 12th 1793

signed Jacob Klock D Corlo (Col. Jacob Klock - note that some of this Klock family were Loyalists)

[John] Cruizer

[in the lower right hand corner of this document are the initials of the various signing parties]

By 1830, Daniel Lobdell Sr. was living with his wife, near some of his married children...

1830 United States Federal Census > New York > Montgomery > Northampton

Daniel Lobdell, with only himself over age 70, and a wife over the age of 70.

The younger Daniel Lobdell (Daniel Jr.) is the only son who remained in Canada. By 1851, Daniel Jr., a widower age 87, is living on Wolfe Island in Frontenac County, with one of his married daughters. Daniel Jr. (1765-aft 1851) is the one mentioned in Reid, "The Loyalists in Ontario", (Sons and Daughters of American Loyalists), page 181...

LOBDELL, Daniel of Kingston: (no wife named)

Children (OC refers to Order in Council, dates when land grant orders were given to children of UE Loyalists)...

- Elizabeth. OC 16 May 1816;

- Frances, married George Kenter of Kingston, OC 17 Dec 1836; (George son of George Kenter UE, who is also listed by Reid)

- Jane, married Andrew P. Shorts of Richmond, OC 2 Jan 1834;

- Daniel of Loughborough, OC 10 Jan 1833;

- Charlotte, m. Soloman Huff of Adolphustown, OC 5 Jan 1827; (Soloman son of John Hough, or Asa Huff, who were also resettled at Fredericksburg)

- Joseph of Ernestown, OC 22 Jun 1825.

If anyone has any further information on any of the Daniel Lobdell (Sr. and Jr.) family, it would be appreciated.

...Richard Ripley UE {nffgfamily AT hotmail DOT com} how do I email him?

Addendum: Help Solving a Revolutionary War Document Mystery

I have been in contact with the reference librarian at West Point Academy. He kindly did some investigations and found on the DAR site a reference to a William Haddon of VA. He believes that this document pertained possibly to a vigilante type committee doing an investigation of the charges. I too suspect the document came from VA, from the research I have done. From what I have found, it may have been in the Christchurch, Middlesex county area.

...{jimsbooks AT yahoo DOT com} how do I email him?

What is the Missing Ingredient?

On a website that has maple syrup recipes there is a one called Loyalist Brown Bread. However, one key word seems to be missing "one cup sour" what? Sour cream? Sour milk?

Loyalist Brown Bread
1/2 cup maple syrup - one cup corn meal
2 cups graham flour - one cup sour
one tsp soda - pinch salt
Combine all ingredients. Bake in medium oven at 375 degrees for one hour. If batter is too heavy, add milk, a drop at a time.

Does anyone know what the missing ingredient should be? Let me know.

...Doug {loyalist DOT trails AT uelac DOT org} how do I email him?